Is There a God?
by Roedy Green ©1996-2008 Canadian Mind Products
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you
will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~ Stephen Roberts
Christians have a special word for people who don’t believe in Jesus, “
atheists” or sometimes “pagans”.
Muslims have a special word for people who don’t believe in Allah, “infidels”.
Jews have a special word for those who don’t believe in Jahweh, “gentiles”.
Every religion has a word for deniers of the faith. To describe me then you need
a giant list, atheist, infidel, gentile, Zeus-denier… Those are your
epithets for me, not mine. I almost never think to myself “I am an infidel”
any more that I think to myself “I am a faggot”. That is some bigot’s
term for me. I simply reject all the 10,000 religions, not just 9,999 of them as
you do. We are in 99.99% agreement on the bogosity of the world’s
religions. It is just that I don’t see yours as any more plausible than
all the rest.
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
“General ideas, especially moral ones, impressed on us at an early age,
often become deeply embedded in your brains. It can be very difficult to change
them. This may help to explain why religious beliefs persist from generation to
generation. But how did ideas originate in the first place? And why do they so
often turn out to be incorrect? The very nature of our brains evolved to guess
the most plausible interpretation of the limited evidence available makes it
almost inevitable that without the discipline of scientific research we shall
often jump to the wrong conclusions especially about rather abstract matters.”
~ Francis Crick, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA.
“But we all recognise the primary foible of frail humanity — our
propensity for embracing hope and shunning logic, our tendency to believe what
we desire rather than what we observe.”
~ Dr. Stephen Jay Gould (1941-09-10—
2002-05-02), Rocks Of Ages
“Religion: a set of beliefs, unsupported by facts, that are obviously
false, fanciful and absurd to everyone but those who have been immersed in them
from birth.”
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.”
~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4 BC—65 AD)
“Are you afraid of death? You have already “experienced” being
dead for billions of years. It is exactly the same as before you were conceived.
If you are afraid, it because you tremble before the monster god under the bed
that somebody made up to scare you to control or con you out of your money. The
religionists, like drug pushers, offer even more of this poisonous belief to
cure your fear of death. It is not the cure; it is the cause!”
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
Introduction
There are two related questions I would like to tackle:
- Is there a God? a creator of the universe, even perhaps completely different
from the descriptions in any holy book.
- If so, is He anything like the descriptions in Christian or Islamic scripture?
I suspect the first question may be well beyond man’s intelligence to
answer, however, the second is more amenable to reason. I will attempt to tackle
the first question in this essay. I attempt to tackle the second an another
essay The Real God.
What do I mean my the term God?
“The word God has become empty of meaning through thousands of years of
misuse. I use it sometimes, but I so sparingly. By misuse I mean that people who
have never evene glimpsed the realm of the sacred, the infinite vastness behind
that word, use it with great conviction as if they knew what they were talking
about. Or, they argue against it, as if they knew what it is that they are
denying.”
~ Eckhard Tolle, The Power Of Now
What I primarily mean in this essay by God is:
- a conscious designer of the universe.
- The judge and punisher. The creator of after death torment.
There are other definitions, such as Thomas Moore’s "Religion is a
sense of dependence". That God is something you can rely on to help you.
In other essays I define God as whomever or whatever created the universe.
Arguments For The Existence of God
- The most convincing evidence I have found lies in the fundamental universal
physical constants. If the charge on the electron had been different by an
almost infinitesimally small amount, the universe would never have developed the
structure it did. The expansion and contraction forces of the universe are
almost precisely balanced. You could imagine some intelligence calculating the
various fundamental constants of the universe to find a set that would create an
interesting universe. An alternate explanation is that we just fluked out. There
are/were other worlds with the constants set differently, but they just
generated boring masses of goo, and intelligent life did not develop in them.
Because these worlds would have to be totally isolated from ours, mathematicians
dismiss their existence as irrelevant. Physicist Stephen Hawking said that it
may also turn out, that for some mathematical reason, the charge on the electron
was compelled to be the precise value it was. It was not an arbitrary choice, in
which case invoking God to set it would be unnecessary.
| Ree’s Six Universal Constants Essential To Life |
| Symbol |
What it Measures |
Comments |
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force that binds atomic nuclei together. |
The difficulties if it were too weak are pretty obvious, but I do not know
how it being a little stronger would have affected the universe. |
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binding strength of forces that hold atoms together divided by gravitational
attraction. |
If gravity were not much much weaker than the other forces, only short-lived
miniature universes could exist. |
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density of matter in the universe. |
If it were larger, the universe would have collapsed long ago. If it were
smaller, no galaxies and stars could have formed. |
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the strength of the cosmic antigravity that controls the expansion of the
universe. |
If it were stronger, no stars could have formed. |
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the size of the ripples in the expanding universe. |
If it were smaller, the universe would be a mass of cold gas. If it were
larger, great gobs of matter would have collapsed into black holes. |
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the number of dimensions in our spacial universe, i.e. 3. |
If this were different, our universe would be very different from the one we
are familiar with, but I see no reason it could not support life or something
else equally interesting. This same argument applies in a lesser degree to the
other constants. |
- The laws of the physical universe are simple, elegant and beautiful. The Spartan
simplicity of quantum mechanics leads inevitably to the periodic table of
elements and from there to chemistry and biology. It can be considered a
masterful piece of mathematics/art. We are used to viewing the universe at a
macroscopic level where it is very untidy. To discover this underlying order
astounds us. We imagine that tidiness could not possibly be an inherent property
of existence, and postulate a designer. I wonder if somewhere there are a race
of microscopic beings, discovering the macroscopic untidiness of the universe
for the first time, and deciding the universe needs a designer to possibly
explain this mysterious chaos, so unlike the natural ordered microscopic
universe they are used to.
- People have near death experiences. They report meeting the dead and a variety
of religious figures consistent with their religious expectations, and generally
experiencing love and bliss. Surely this is a foretaste of life after death. We
have discovered you can also create these experiences by starving the brain of
oxygen using a centrifuge. Various drugs such as nitrous oxide, cocaine and
heroin also stimulate ecstatic states. These experiences are part of dying, not
of life after death. I have gone under anaesthesia several times. I just
disappeared. I watched myself fade away. I have no problem with the notion that
when I die I have no consciousness at all since I have already experienced total
lack of consciousness while alive. On the planet earth, billions of animals die
every day and billions of tons of vegetable matter dies. What are some
possibilities?
- Consciousnesses are recycled at the soul level and reincarnate.
- Consciousness hang around at the soul level for a while before allowing
themselves to be decomposed and recycled in a process analogous to leaves
rotting.
- Consciousness just stops and disappears.
- Consciousness is broken down and reused.
- Consciousness is protected for eternity from further change living happily ever
after in heaven or in hell in eternal torment.
- Jesus could heal people and Jesus said there was a God. Unfortunately Christian
con artists like Peter Popov and Ernest Angley in our day have convinced people
God healed through them. Does this make their pronouncements infallible? We don’t
even know for sure if Jesus was as actual person. There were no written records
about him created until 130 years after his death. God could easily have
provided more solid evidence for His existence for us to examine in this day,
but for some reason He elected not to.
- On the 100 Huntley Street TV show, people come on daily and tell a story how "God
told them" to do such and such a thing. It turns out what they meant is
they heard a quiet voice inside that urged them to action. They are so puffed
with pride they imagine their own internal voices are the Creator of the
Universe taking time out to give them special guidance. They ignore John 5:37
which claims God does not talk to people. Oddly, not once did one of these
voices reveal the chemical formula for a cure for cancer. Oddly, this same quiet
voice counsels others to murder, such as the demented Abraham.
“What makes fantastic declarations believable is, in part, the vehemence
with which they’re proffered. Again, in the world of spirituality as well
as of pop psychology, intensity of personal belief is evidence of truth. It is
considered very bad form — even abuse — to challenge the veracity of
any personal testimony that might be offered in a twelve-step group or on a talk
show, unless the testimony itself is equivocal… Whatever sells, whatever
many people believe strongly, must be true.”
~ Wendy Kaminer
Some people just know in their bones that God exists. They can’t imagine
life without that comfort. Obviously, a belief in God is comforting. Your
enemies will eventually be punished, you will eventually be exonerated, your
pain will eventually be replaced with joy and you will be reunited with those
you love who have died. Quite a package! Yet what has comfort to do with truth?
The truth often hurts. People who have been conned often refuse to recognize the
signs of betrayal simply because they want so badly for the con to be true.
Wishful thinking clouds the mind. Just what evidence is there that any of
this Christian mumbo jumbo is true? The only "evidence" is repeated
assertion. Repeated assertion when a child is very young creates rock-like faith
in any arrant nonsense. Just look at the children of cult members. We don’t
recognise this as a con even though the believer hands over money and
unquestioning obedience to another in the promise of a reward which, so far as
we can tell, is never delivered.
“I am satisfied, and sufficiently occupied with the things which are,
without tormenting or troubling myself about those which may indeed be, but of
which I have no evidence.”
~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-04-13—1826-07-04), in a letter
to John Adams, 1820-08-15
- In times of trouble, some people talk to God, some to themselves, some to their
pets. They would feel exceedingly lost and alone without that habit. However,
this is not evidence for the existence in God, just in the comfort that comes
from pretending there is. This may be the main power the god delusion has for
people. They feel unsafe without pretending their is a powerful figure looking
out for them in tough times. This is god as an invisible teddy bear for adults.
A teddy bear is a comforter, not a protector. Instead of talking to god, try
talking to yourself, telling yourself reassuring and encouraging messages. This
will get you a lot further than passively waiting for God to rescue you.
- That gut feeling there has to be a God is just a measure of the depth of
your existential pain. Do something practical to reduce that pain:
- Meditate.
- Read self help books.
- Get counselling.
- Learn how to reduce you addictive load using the Keyes techniques.
- Start your plan to save the world.
- Many people, myself included, have had OOBEs Out Of Body Experiences.
This suggests life may be possible without a body. Mind you, every one who has
ever reported an OOBE had a living brain at the time, even if it were so quiet
that it appeared dead. In my experiments with dreaming, I have discovered that
dreams can be equally vivid in detail as real life. Most OOBEs can be considered
like dreams or hallucinations that weave information gleaned from various
sources. My brain is perfectly capable of computing what my eyes would see from
the rafters of a theater, where I was floating in my own OOBE. Yet some OOBEs
glean information by inexplicable means. Buddhist reincarnationist theology is
just as compatible with OOBEs as Christian. Questions on ESP and OOBEs could be
settled either way, quite independent of the truth of Christian theology or the
existence of God.
- People who are seriously ill sometimes spontaneously recover. Whenever this
happens, God is usually given credit for special intervention. Nobody asks why
God let all the others die with similar diseases many of whom appeared to be
even more deserving. It is a bit like giving God credit when someone wins the
lottery, rather than as the natural outcome of the laws of probability. If the
odds are 1 in 1000 of surviving, there will be natural survivors from time to
time. If there were not, it would be cause for note.
- People who believe in God have lower blood pressure and they live longer. Some
have argued that man’s brain is wired to believe in God — any God.
This may well be true, but if anything it just shows we humans are so biased we
cannot study the problem objectively. Scientists have even found a God spot in
the brain, that when stimulated creates feelings of religious ecstasy and the
presence of God, using whatever religious symbolism the subject is familiar with.
Bertrand Russell pointed out that the Muggletonians (Flat Earth Society members)
are among the happiest people on earth. Their happiness however, has nothing
whatsoever to do with the accuracy of their beliefs.
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the
point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.”
~ George Bernard Shaw (1856--07-26—1950-11-02)
- Jesus said there is a god named Jehovah. Jesus healed people; therefore
everything he says must be true, goes the logic. However, Jesus himself said
that people healed themselves through faith. Ernest Angley heals people on TV by
the power of faith; therefore everything Mr. Angley says must be true. Really?
- Mohammed said there is but one god and his name is Allah. Mohammed was the
greatest Arabic poet of all time; therefore everything he says must be true,
goes the logic. Shakespear was the greatest English language poet; therefore
everything Shakespear says must be true. Really?
- The Bible reports various spectacular divine interventions, such as the parting
of the Red Sea, and Lot’s wife being turned into a pillar of salt. However,
for some reason God does not act like that anymore. The authorship of these
tales is not established. Further, these stories had long periods of oral
transmission, in which they would be embellished. It sounds to me like they are
apocryphal.
- Monks who fast, pray and meditate for very long hours report states of extreme
bliss, deep peace or profound clarity. Some consider this consciousness of God.
Obviously, something happens that the monk finds astounding.
- Sondra Ray. Hanging out with this woman is like entering an alternate reality.
- Ken Keyes.
- The incredible life of Captain Paul Watson, head of the Sea Shepherd Society,
who scoffs at religions, but who lives a life more charmed than a Star Trek
character. He miraculously escapes from predicament after hopeless predicament.
He hints that perhaps it is the whales warping the probabilities in his favour.
- Co-incidences. I have had one in a billion coincidences in my life. One possible
explanation is that they are orchestrated by God. I tend to think the
explanation will be more mundane, but still astounding. I suspect we humans have
some way of warping reality that unconsciously creates these mind-blowing co-incidences.
It may be a form of ESP or perhaps some quantum
effect. New agers have recently been making reference to the Quantum Field
as a new name for God.
- The argument that Wayne Dyer finds most convincing is the explosion in a print
shop. To him looking around at the universe of living things interacting in such
complex ways without conscious design is like expecting an explosion in a print
shop to spell out the works of Shakespear. How could this possibly happen by
pure chance? His is a fallacious argument based on a misunderstanding of the
theory of evolution and natural selection. Natural selection is not pure
chance. Only the mutations are pure chance. Natural selection is intelligent,
though not very intelligent, with roughly an IQ of only 1, but when you let it
refine and refine its designs over 4 billions years of winnowing out those that
don’t work and keeping the best, it can come up with some pretty amazing
stuff. If you study the fossil record, it is dithering, inept and meandering,
with no hint of foresight or planning. Animals and plants work, but they are far
from elegantly designed. Scientists use genetic algorithms
to simulate this mindless, but powerful, winnowing process in computers for
solving difficult mathematical problems. Imagine asking your child to create 100,000
paintings and then having a panel of the world’s greatest artists select
the best one. Your child, judged solely on that winnowed painting, would look
like an artistic genius.
- Long before Darwin, philosopher David Hume pointed out the inconsistency in the
God-must-exist-because-man-superficially-looks-designed argument. God is much
more complicated than man, so where did God come from? If man is too complicated
to accept coming into being without a designer, surely God requires a designer
even more. Conversely, if you can accept something as complicated as God
existing without a designer, surely something as simple as humanity does not
need one either.
- When you study the evolution of life, you discover all kinds of mistakes,
ugliness and ham-fisted bungling. This is not the work of an intelligent
infinitely careful designer. Evolution proceeds by making do with what already
exists without any planning. If God is in charge of the details of this process,
he exhibits an IQ less than 1. That is quite insulting to God. There is no more
need for a god to direct evolution than to conduct the trajectory of every
raindrop. It all works on automatic.
- The bible is the account we have of biblical times. It has been revered a long
time. Therefore it must be 100% true. Yet we have tens of thousands of times
more evidence for the miracles of the living Sai Baba and he does not even get
an honourable mention. Every night TV evangelists “heal” people (who
were not sick in the first place) using the same con-man tricks that have been
used by shamans since the beginning of time, and only a few of us are suckered
in. We have tens of thousands of times more evidence for visitors from outer
space, yet most of us remain highly skeptical. The gospels were not even written
until Jesus had been dead for decades. The only reason people are so willing to
presume the bible is perfectly true, with no corroboration, is they have been
told since birth it is the word of god, and they have not
actually read it cover to cover. All you have to do is read the bible cover to
cover to discover it is false (e.g. the earth is flat), silly, erroneous,
vicious and no possible basis for a cooperative society. Under Jehovah’s
command, his followers commit genocide and pretty well every other conceivable
crime. You would be utterly astounded at the goofiness
in there. It advocates owning slaves and beating them, for heaven sake. What
sort of moral guidance is that? It advocates treating women much as they are
treated in modern day Afghanistan, e.g. stoning them to death for not being
virgins on their wedding night. I have debated with Jehovah’s Witnesses
who put OJ’s lawyers to shame in their fancy footwork to excuse the bible’s
errors, inconsistencies and outright insanity. The work of the creator of the
universe should surely be much higher quality than that. It should be divinely
clear, beautiful and perfect. It should not require lawyerly defence. It should
be better written than any human could compose. But it isn’t, far from it.
You want proof? Open a page at random and read any unfamiliar passage.
- It is necessary for god to exist and for punishment after death or else people
would run amok. This argument has nothing to do with the existence of god. It is
an argument for lying that he exists when he does not. The atheistic Swedes,
Norwegians and Danes behave much better than the Christian nations such as the
USA. They have less violence and are more generous to each other and to the
third world. It seems holding up a violent, cruel, selfish, intolerant, vain god
as a role model creates violent, cruel, selfish, intolerant, vain people. There
is thus no point in lying.
“What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of
the good and for the Christian church… a lie out of necessity, a useful
lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.”
~ Martin Luther
If you watch Nanny 9/11 you will discover parents who threaten
their children with grievous bodily harm raise little monsters. The children
beat and punch their siblings, using the same tactics god suppedly uses on them.
That sort of violent threat has the exact opposite effect of that desired.
Arguments Against the Existence of God
- Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe has not been hit by lightning. He is possibly the most
evil man to ever walk the planet.
- The Norse took Wotan seriously, the Romans worshipped Jupiter and killed those
who failed to show sufficient respect. How is it that every society’s
ideas of God but our own are preposterous? What a strange co-incidence! I
explored the Roman ruins an Bath England. In particular, when I saw a bronze
mask of Minerva Sulis, I felt an even greater sense of dignity and religious awe
than I felt in the nearby Christian Cathedrals. I was quite convinced these
ancient peoples took these Gods even more seriously than we take the Christian
god today.
“Nearly 300 years after the Age of Reason was prematurely announced, most
people, in most nations, most of the time, are mentally in total bondage to
religious leader who operate on sheer bluff, i.e. on the basis of claims that
cannot be proven and appear clearly insane to everybody who hasn’t been
raised within their frameworks.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
- An A&E special on Scientology asked "Is Scientology a legitimate
religion?" I find the question absurd. No religion is legitimate! All
religions depend on belief in some unsubstantiated silly story. All use that
story to take power over others to convince them to behave a certain way. (Granted,
in many cases this way is more moral than the people would have naturally chosen,
but it is all still based on a lie.) All use that story to convince others to
give money to some special priest class in return for special favour from the
deity. The story is obviously preposterous to everyone but those who belong to
that particular cult/religion. There is no essential difference between a cult
and a religion other than vintage and popularity. We put up with the most
blatant of con games the instant the con men throw in bit of religious hocus
pocus into the mix. The con men may even seriously believe their own malarkey.
That is why they are so convincing.
- Had Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, tried to pass off his cock and bull
story today, he would be diagnosed with schizophrenia or dismissed as a
charlatan. His followers are considered sane even though they believe the same
delusions. They enjoy this status simply because there are so many of them. All
religions are based on stories just as outlandish. They don’t seem so to
the believers because of familiarity.
- Various scriptures of the world were purportedly written by God. If anyone
should know how the universe is constructed, it should be God. How come then
these scriptures show no understanding of medicine, chemistry or even basic
physics? However, this does not show there is no God, only that God did not
write the scripture.
- Some people are astounded at the complexity of the universe and thus insist it
must not have been self creating. They imagine that postulating a God simplifies
things. It just muddies them further. You now have an even more mysterious,
sourceless God plus a complicated universe. An astounding universe by itself is
quite sufficiently amazing to swallow all on its own. It is intellectual
laziness to claim whatever you don’t know is unknowable. Hiding the
mystery of the universe behind an unknowable God is like sweeping dirt under the
rug that you are too lazy to deal with. Why is an amazing invisible God more
palatable than an amazing visible/invisible universe? The universe is by
definition e v e r y t h i n g,
so surely that should include God — the creator of the universe (whatever/whoever
that is). So by definition, the universe is self-creating. Q.E.D.
“Christians often go their whole lives without doubting the childhood
stories of Santa Claus or his older brother Jesus, despite ample empirical
evidence that praying for a pony does not work.”
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
From a practical point of view, what people are really interested in when they
talk about the existence of God, is can He be persuaded to bend the normal rules
of the universe to provide special beneficence for ourselves and special
punishment for our enemies. Despite all the wild claims to the contrary, there
is no statistical evidence that God plays any favourites. He rains on the just
and unjust equally. Christians die in plane crashes the same as anyone else.
Little boys with cancer die whether the congregation prays or not. He pays
absolutely no attention to prayers. Whether you pray or not, both unexpected
good and bad things happen to people. Prayer may give people courage to do what
needs to be done. It may encourage others to help. However, it won’t bend
God’s ear. That is the Big Lie that churches have repeated so often that
most people believe it.
“Praying is like a rocking chair — it’ll give you something to
do, but it won’t get you anywhere.”
~ Gypsy Rose Lee
“Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.”
~ Anonymous
Here are two exceptions:
- When an alcoholic prays for deliverance, by submitting to any "higher
power" the prayer sometimes changes him.
- Quantum Miracles.
(1) may be a special case of (2).
- Keep in mind that if you pray and a good thing happens, that is not
evidence that God answered your prayer. If you put a cherry pit up your nose and
a good thing happened, that is not evidence putting the cherry pit you
your nose in any way caused the good thing to happen. If you put a cherry
pit up your nose four times a day and nice things continue to happen to you, it
is still no evidence. You must keep track of all the nice and bad things that
happen, and when and when you do not put a cherry pit up your nose, and look for
correlations. Further, you must get hundreds of other people to keep track as
well before you can scientifically claim cherry pits/prayer works. Much as we
would like it to, prayer does not pass this test any better than poking a cherry
pit up your nose. Though we have had thousands of years to accumulate such
evidence, we still don’t have anything but anecdotes of the occasional
fluke success.
- Gautama Buddha observed the first noble truth, all is suffering. Why would a
kind loving god create a universe where all its inhabitants continuously suffer?
Even birth implies old age and decay. Our lives begin in screaming agony.
- Prayer simply does not work. Consider how many millions of people prayed
desperately for President Kennedy, Lady Diana and Mother Theresa. Nothing out
the ordinary happened at all. If prayer had power, well known public figures
would all live forever in perfect health and happiness. God either has a heart
of stone or simply does not or cannot make exceptions.
- God is supposedly unchanging, however, He has not done anything to show himself
for two thousand years. He sat on His thumbs through two world wars and
atrocities in Germany, Viet Nam, Uganda, Cambodia, Kosovo, 9/11, Afghanistan,
Iraq… Where did He go? It makes you wonder if those stories handed down
from years past where God actively intervened in human history were fables, not
actual accounts. Sadly, God must live in the hearts of the people or there can
be no Quantum Miracles.
- Women who win music awards invariably thank God for their trophies. Similarly
football players give credit to God when their team wins. I find this
blasphemous, as if God were so petty as to take sides in such unimportant
contests.
- Despite the condemnation of armed conflict in most of the world’s
scripture, leaders of armies confidently proclaim that the Almighty has taken
their side, and therefore they cannot lose. Even in the case of Adolph Hitler,
God made not even a token appearance nor made any overt attempt to protect the
devout from the Nazis. If God refuses to ever act, for all practical purposes,
He does not exist. Napoléon observed that God always seemed to be on the
side of the biggest army, hardly a ringing endorsement of His moral character.
- Buddhists and Hindus claim that after death, instead of resting for eternity in
an excruciatingly dull heaven or hell, you reincarnate back on earth. There are
many stories of young children reporting details of their former lives, and
often these check out with reality. The children mysteriously know intimate
details of lives of people who have died. The 14th Dalai
Lama’s web page describes the process by which he was selected as the
reincarnation of the previous Dalai Lama. There is no similar evidence to back
up the Christian theology. I have a friend who went to a renaissance town in
Italy and had a very strong feeling of deja vu. He recalled events that occurred
in the town hundreds of years ago, and was able to check some of them out, such
as the location of his favourite pub which was still standing but had been
converted to some other use. Buddhists claim that if you meditate and release
your attachments sufficiently, you will be able to recall details of your
previous lives, just as did the Buddha at his enlightenment under the Bodhi tree.
Christian theology is so constructed no conceivable test could check if it were
true. Usually in science we automatically discard any such untestable theories
as bogus. Only those that could potentially be disproved are considered
potentially legit.
- The best behaved political/religious leader on the planet is the Dalai Lama. He
makes no claims about the existence of a God. If you are supposed to judge a
tree by its fruit, Christianity does not rank very well. Christians carve
Christians in Ireland. Christians and Muslims kill each other in Indonesia,
Afghanistan and Iraq. Racism and sexism flourish under the banner of
Christianity in the USA.
- The Gödel argument argument probably won’t be
very convincing to Christians, but it may alleviate some deep seated doubts in
non-believers. The universe seems so incredibly complex. Surely some
intelligence must have designed it, then created it, argue the theists.
Not necessarily. There is a mathematical theorem called the Gödel
incompleteness theorem that very roughly says a tiny part of a system can’t
possibly understand the whole. Analogously, man is such a tiny tiny fraction of
the universe that it is preposterous to imagine his relatively nanoscopic brain
could glimpse but even a inkling of the totality or the inate intelligence of
the totality. So naturally the universe seems incredible and miraculous
to him. The universe necessarily appears that way because we humans are
such a tiny tiny part of it. It appears that way because we compare the
entire universe with our own mundane little limited existences. We don’t
have an absolute yardstick for how wonderful our universe is. We have only have
one to admire. If there are parallel universes, perhaps ours may turn out to be
comparatively shabby, obviously lacking the ultra-intelligent design of the
usual universe, (where all the women are beautiful, all the men are strong and
all the children are above average) proving a true God had nothing to do with
ours.
“I can understand ignorant people believing in a god, but certainly not a
loving caring god.”
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
People tell me they could not bear it if there were no God. I think this is
rubbish. If there is a God, he is clearly a rather cruel or uncaring or
ineffective bastard. There is not much hope. God made things the way they are.
He must want them that way despite his protestations. How can things
change with a great lunk like that in charge? There is no hope. So it is less
pessimistic to assume their is no one in charge. It means things could get
better. You are merely fighting chaos, not a deity, to improve man’s lot.
For the atheist, knowing you definitely won’t be tortured for eternity
after death for minor infractions of holy rules is extremely reassuring. I don’t
know why Christian choose to dangle this sword of Damocles over their entire
lives, and lie to themselves this obnoxious bastard is a great comfort.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction: jealous, proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving, homophobic,
racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal,
sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born 1941-03-26),
The God Delusion chapter 2
Holy Blackmail
Humans are such cowards that they willingly allow themselves to be conned by
those claiming death is not real and claiming to know the precise details of how
the afterlife works.
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
Several people have tried to persuade me to become Christian with a pragmatic
argument that goes like this:
Let’s assume that it is very unlikely that God exists, say 1%. You should
still believe in Him anyway and follow Christian dogma for purely practical
reasons. There are four cases:
- If you believe in Him and He does not exist, what do you lose? You just die and
nothing happens.
- If you believe in Him and He does exist, you have eternity in Heaven.
- If you don’t believe in Him and He does not exist, you just die and
nothing happens.
- If you don’t believe in Him and He does exist, you will rot in Hell for
eternity.
You come out ahead if you believe, in two of the four cases.
I counter this argument by saying:
- I am interested in the truth, not toadying to some imaginary despot. This
argument is roughly the moral equivalent of a scientist falsifying his findings
in hopes of receiving a bribe from a tobacco company. It is intellectual
dishonesty.
“He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth, will proceed by
loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end in loving
himself better than all.”
~ Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet, (1772—
1834) in his Aids To Reflection
- If the following argument persuades you, then you should become a Muslim. Islam
offers far greater after death rewards to the faithful and far more terrifying
tortures for the non-believer than Christianity does. Jehovah is a wimp compared
with Allah. Read the Qur’an if you are skeptical. I did and had nightmares
for months.
Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why
should I fear that which cannot exist when I do?”
~ Epicurus (circa. 341-270 BCE), Greek philosopher.
- Every religion offers punishments and rewards to its rejectors and adherents,
including the worship of Wotan and Zeus and the religions of the Indians of the
Amazon. How do you decide which is the true religion? They all sound equally
improbable, bogus and silly.
“Faith is believing what you know isn’t so.”
~ Mark Twain
If you follow the tenets of Christianity as it is practiced you would
probably lead a more evil life than you would otherwise. You would be
judgemental. You would discriminate against gays and probably blacks. You would
lie to people about the best ways to cure disease. You would spread superstition
and lies that are part of the Christian faith. You would indirectly kill
children by blocking sex education about AIDS and birth control. For
a more detailed list of the evils of Christianity, see the essay
on why Christianity should be combatted. As an extreme example, Jeff
Dahmer said grace before consuming his murder victims.
- If you believe in God, you life will actually be more miserable than if you do
not. Why? If you believe in God, you will tend to mope around praying —
wondering why God is ignoring you. You will waste time waiting for God to do
things only you can do for yourself. If you don’t believe in God, you will
be much more practical and self reliant. You won’t be saddled with an
unrealistic sense of entitlement. You cannot very well be angry with God for
disappointing you if you don’t believe in Him. You don’t project
unrealistic expectations on the universe that it was created for your
convenience. You take it as it is. Holding unrealistically high expections is a
major cause of suffering.
Preferences
“We long to situate ourselves on a benevolent, warm, furry, encompassing
planet, created to provide our material needs, and constructed for our dominion
and delectation. Unfortunately, this pipedream of succor from the realm of
meaning (and therefore the magisterium of religion), imposes definite and
unrealistic demands upon the factual construction of nature (under the
magisterium of science). But nature, who is as she is, and who existed in
earthly form for 4.5 billion years before we arrived to impose our
interpretations upon her, greets us with sublime indifference and no preference
for accommodating our yearnings.”
~ Dr. Stephen Jay Gould (1941-09-10—
2002-05-02), Rocks Of Ages
People often tell me that they just could not stand to be alive if there were no
God. Roughly, if there were no God, they would invent one. All they are doing is
warning me about their emotional biases. They know they can’t look on the
matter objectively.
In Isaiah 45:7 God admits he creates the evil in the world.
God then gave your father a brain tumor, fanned the hatred that boiled over into
a gang rape of an eight year old Albanian girl, etc. If this is true, you are
dealing with an immensely powerful, evil, cruel, heartless, arbitrary adversary.
What hope do you have? In the story of Job, it is clear God does not even spare
the just from his sadistic torments.
Would you not prefer to deal instead with nature? These negative happenings are
essentially random events, but with some pattern behind them. There are laws
physical or psychological. Eventually they may be understood and the evils
averted. I certainly would prefer to deal with nature than a quixotic, slippery,
tyrant God.
What Is God Like?
There are two quite different pictures you get of God, one from examining the
Bible and the Qur’an, and quite a different one from examining the rest of
the universe as well.
“Beware the man of one book.”
~ St. Thomas Aquinas
The God of scripture is petty, cruel, jealous, inconsistent, prudish, partisan
and foolish. He is fanatically concerned with controlling every thought and
action of humans with a set of insanely arbitrary rules. He desperately wants to
be loved. He is willing to bribe his subjects with unimaginable largess or
torment after death, but refuses to offer even the tiniest foretaste to prove he
is not bluffing. Earth and man are the center of His existence. He is oddly
partial to the Jewish people at the expense of all others.
To me, that description sounds like a Roman Caesar — how a human behaves
when given absolute power. The Old Testament was composed by people imagining
what they thought God would say if He spoke. Unfortunately, they projected their
failings onto Him. They described how they would behave if given absolute
power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely
should not not apply to God, only to people.
In contrast,look at the universe. See the stupendous variety and stupendous
quantity. Earth is just a tiny backwater planet on the edge of a backwater
galaxy. There are trillions of stars and trillions of planets. Even on earth,
the variety of animal and plant life is utterly amazing.
No prude created the sexually-daisy-chaining periwinkle.
“The lust of the goat is the glory of God”
~ William Blake
If there is a creator, He is the consumate mathematician, physicist and
biologist. He is not some narrow cleric afraid to look at the earth as it is.
The world is full of beauty and cruelty. Birds and fish are dazzling colours and
patterns for no apparent reason other than exuberant beauty. The whole web of
life is built on the principle that animals eat plants and kill and eat each
other. This is the fundamental cruelty of our existence. A frog may have a
million young, yet only two on average will survive to adulthood. This is true
of all species, including humans. Does that seriously sound like the handiwork
of an infinitely merciful deity?
God likes using small simple building blocks to construct a bewildering variety
of forms. Consider atoms, DNA and cells, in particular brain cells.
If there is a God, He looks after the big picture. He has no more interest in
individual humans than a child would have in the individual ants in his ant farm.
He works with general principles and allows their consequences to work out
logically.
God likes subtle asymmetry.
The bewildering intricate beauty of the Mandelbrot set springs forth from the
simplest of mathematical equations. Even these lowly equations can help
themselves from strutting like peacocks.
Life After Death
Life after death is a related question to is there a God? You might have it four
ways:
- No god. no afterlife, (materialist)
- No god, with afterlife (Buddhist)
- God, no afterlife (hippy)
- God, with afterlife (Christian, Muslim)
Arguments For Life After Death
- Almost every culture has some sort of life-after-death myth. The details of what
actually happens vary considerably. There is usually some form of adjudication
of how well you did in your life, and some form of punishment or reward. If the
myth is so common, maybe there is something to it other than just wishful
thinking.
- People who die on the operating table and are later revived report very similar
stories about traveling down a tunnel toward a bright light, often meeting dead
relatives, and often meeting some loving religious figure. These experiences can
also be induced using a centrifuge to reduce the flow of blood to the brain.
This may well just be the standard hallucination the brain kicks into when blood
flow is reduced. It explains the origin of the belief in life after death. The
extreme euphoria is caused by an excess of nitrous oxide, (a natural brain
transmitter) in the brain. Yet people don’t just dream of tunnels, they
dream specifically of death. If the after death experience is in some other
dimension, people will inevitably map this unfamiliar experience back onto their
ordinary world with its expectations, created by religious conditioning. If the
cause were simply an oxygen-starved brain, I would expect much greater variety
in the hallucinations. It also seems odd that people rarely have ordinary dreams
of after-death experiences. In near death experiences, people often report
rapidly reviewing their whole life, only with the ability to sense the emotions
of others around them. It seems strange man would evolve to reserve this very
useful review only for the last minutes of life.
- People have hellish near death experiences. People are typically reluctant to
talk about them. I had an operation requiring general anaesthesia to remove an
impacted wisdom tooth. I partially woke up in the middle of the operation.
Several people had to be called in to restrain me and put me back under. From my
point of view, I was in hell, falling endlessly through a gray fog in
excruciating pain. I assumed I was dead and this was indeed hell. The experience
was much more vivid than a dream. Ironically, fundamentalists (who in theory
should have the least to fear from hellfire) have these experiences much more
frequently than other people. Most people have entirely positive near death
experiences. In the middle ages people typically reported a negative experience
that transformed into a positive one.
- In Buddhist countries children reportedly remember their previous lives and the
people in them. I don’t know the care to which the children are shielded
from hearing stories of their supposed previous lives, or just how accurate the
descriptions the children provide actually are. I saw one documentary where a
child simply reached out to play with various objects belonging to a dead person,
and the onlookers read a great deal into this.
- Anecdotal ghost stories. If even one ghost story is true, that would be evidence
for some sort of existence after death.
- I have had an out of body experience, OOBE, as have many other people. It
appears your consciousness is floating outside your body able to look down on it.
This sounds very similar to what is supposed to happen to you after death.
However, with an OOBE your brain is still functioning, so perhaps it is a
hallucination where you project what the world would look like from up on the
ceiling.
- Australian aborigines have a form of consciousness they call "dream time".
From the little I can find out about it, it appears to be as different from
ordinary consciousness as death.
- One day I was sitting under a tree at the University Of BC. A group of Hare
Krishna devotees were chanting nearby. A little girl from the group walked over
and gave me a small bag of nuts. I experienced the event in a miraculous way. It
was as if I were everything at once, not just confined to my limited body.
Perhaps it is just an illusion that I am Roedy Green. In actuality I may be the
whole ball of wax. As such, it seems unlikely I would disappear when Roedy Green’s
body dies.
- In a very mundane sense, there is only one being living on planet earth.
Consider the amoeba. They reproduce by splitting in two. If you look at any
amoeba today it is billions of years old. You might in theory trace all the
amoebae alive in the world today to a single ancestor. Thus in one sense there
is only one amoeba, living in many bodies. If an amoeba dies, has the
amoeba died? no. It is much like single blood cell in a human dying. If you
follow back further you would probably find that other one celled animals all
share a common ancestor with the amoeba too. There is only one "life"
living in many bodies. Multicelled humans too are part of this single life tree.
Our cells too grow only by splitting, but in more specialised ways, going
through a minimalist stage periodically as sperm and egg cells. However, each of
a human’s cells is similarly billions of years old, with an unbroken chain
of cell divisions going all the way back through the generations of humanity.
Oddly, even though the cells are billions of years old, the cells die within 100
years of birth, if they stay part of human’s body i.e. if they don’t
leave it as sperm or as a completed baby. They have a built-in death count-down
mechanism called telomeres. If there is only one life, living in many bodies in
many forms, you, the primordial life, lives on even if your little human body
dies.
Arguments Against Life After Death
- If a person sustains brain damage, his mental capacities are correspondingly
impaired. If the mind were separate from the brain, it should remain undamaged.
Similarly for the effects of diseases such as Alzheimer and schizophrenia. It
thus appears if a brain is totally damaged, so is the corresponding mind. Thus
it appears a mind (consciousness) dies when the corresponding brain dies. There
is now evidence that consciousness is brain
activity. You are only conscious of something once a certain threshold of
neurons start firing.
- I have experienced anaesthesia several times in my life. I felt myself totally
disappear. I awoke with the sensation no time had passed. It appeared my
consciousness did not exist for the duration of the operation. Consciousness
does not thus have to go somewhere when you die. It can just stop.
- Nobody can give reasonable explanation for how anyone would know if the after-death
myth of their culture could be true. Usually some shaman figure (e.g. Buddha,
Jesus, Mohammad) simply announces it is, and people take his word for it based
on his reputation as a moral figure. He just knows by some mysterious process
not available to ordinary humans.
- The after-death myths are very man-centred. I have a rough time imagining a God
that did not value dolphins, whales and many other species as equally important
to man.
- When the Spanish came to America, the indigenous peoples mistook them for Gods.
If beings from other parts of the galaxy ever send their technology to earth,
surely the technology gap would be even greater. We would mistake it for magic
or acts of God. The universe is an unimaginably huge place. We have just begun
to explore just one tiny solar system. If life could happen once, surely it
would happen over and over. It is mind boggling to contemplate the possibility
that there is other intelligent life in the cosmos, but even more mind boggling
to contemplate the possibility there is not, and we are utterly alone and
utterly unique.
“The misfortunes of human beings may be divided into two classes: First,
those inflicted by the non-human environment and, second, those inflicted by
other people. As mankind have progressed in knowledge and technique, the second
class has become a continually increasing percentage of the total. In old times,
famine, for example, was due to natural causes, and although people did their
best to combat it, large numbers of them died of starvation. At the present
moment large parts of the world are faced with the threat of famine, but
although natural causes have contributed to the situation, the principal causes
are human. For six years the civilized nations of the world devoted all their
best energies to killing each other, and they find it difficult suddenly to
switch over to keeping each other alive. Having destroyed harvests, dismantled
agricultural machinery, and disorganized shipping, they find it no easy matter
to relieve the shortage of crops in one place by means of a superabundance in
another, as would easily be done if the economic system were in normal working
order. As this illustration shows, it is now man that is man’s worst enemy.
Nature, it is true, still sees to it that we are mortal, but with the progress
in medicine it will become more and more common for people to live until they
have had their fill of life. We are supposed to wish to live for ever and to
look forward to the unending joys of heaven, of which, by miracle, the monotony
will never grow stale. But in fact, if you question any candid person who is no
longer young, he is very likely to tell you that, having tasted life in this
world, he has no wish to begin again as a 'new boy' in another. For the future,
therefore, it may be taken that much the most important evils that mankind have
to consider are those which they inflict upon each other through stupidity or
malevolence or both.”
~ Bertrand Russell (1872-05-18—
1970-02-02) Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind,
from Unpopular Essays
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recommend book⇒Unpopular Essays |
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| publisher: | Routledge |
| published: | 1996-10-11 |
| by: | Bertrand Russell |
| Common sense essays condening war and Christian superstition. Russell was a stuffy old Englishman, and he had so much fun with it. |
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I also tackle this topic in a separate essay.
Omnipotence
Christian theologians have made some rather silly assumptions about the creator
of the universe, namely that He is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, perfect,
infinitely loving, infinitely good. There is no reason on earth the creator of
the universe necessarily would necessarily have any of those qualities. It is
almost like a son bragging about his Dad.
Clearly toothaches, bad breath and fungus infections exist. How to explain that?
We presume that God created a Devil who then created these things. God gets off
the hook by one level of indirection. That makes about as much sense as a Mafia
don claiming innocence because he hired a hitman.
Perhaps it would be simpler to just say God created the best universe he could
at the time. Perhaps it is impossible to create a logically consistent
universe any better than this. This may be the best of all possible
worlds.
We keep imagining the universe was created for the personal pleasure of man. We
may well prove to be one of the least important species in the galaxy. From God’s
point of view, we may well be a cancer on planet earth, destroying its carefully
planned biological diversity, about as well-loved as rose blight.
The one thing we have discovered is the creation is logically consistent.
Scripture is anything but. If there is a creator, the best way to understand Him
is to study His creation.
Christians mean “Do you believe the Bible to be literally true?”
when they ask “Do you believe in God?”. The questions are only
loosely related. If a God did exist, there is almost no
chance he would be anything like the one described in the bible.
Advantages of Believing in God
None of these argument have any bearing on whether God actually exists, they are
the pragmatic advantages for believing.
- You can console yourself when a loved one dies with the thought you will see
them again.
- If it turns out my some fluke you picked the one true religion (if there indeed
is one), and the one true sect within that religion, this gives you brownie
points rewarding you in the afterlife for your acuity. You go to the head of the
heavenly chow line. Lot’s of luck picking the right one from this list.
- It can give you hope in a hopeless situation, such as a fatal illness. God might
set aside the usual rules of the universe or arrange some co-incidences to
rescue you.
- It can give you fellowship.
- It can help you feel superior to others.
- It can erase doubt and let you stop thinking. You can relax. Others will spoon
feed you all the answers to life’s problems. The answers might not make
any sense, but you know they must be valid since they came direct from God.
- If you are addicted to drugs, it may help you become unaddicted.
- If you tend to spend much of your time worrying, it can train you to take your
mind off your troubles and think more optimistically. Emmet Fox suggests that
casting your troubles on God, then contemplating the nature of God instead will
change your consciousness, and hence your reality will improve. This technique
could work whether or not God actually exists.
- It gives you extra motivation to treat others well and to avoid criminal
activity.
- It can let you fearlessly tackle dangerous activities. The worst that can happen
is you will end up in heaven early.
Disadvantages of Believing in God
“Believing in God is like believing in imaginary seat belts. It gives you
a false sense of security.”
~ Roedy (born 1948-02-04)
None of these argument have any bearing on whether God actually exists, they are
the pragmatic disadvantages of believing.
“A delusion that encourages belief where there is no evidence is asking
for trouble. Disagreements between incompatible beliefs cannot be settled by
reasoned argument because reasoned argument is drummed out of those trained in
religion from the cradle. Instead, disagreements are settled by other means
which, in extreme cases, inevitably become violent. Scientists disagree among
themselves but they never fight over their disagreements. They argue about
evidence or go out and seek new evidence. Much the same is true of philosophers,
historians and literary critics.”
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born 1941-03-26),
2005-04-25, Salon
- You tend to sit twiddling your thumbs praying rather than doing something useful
about a problem.
- You fall in the ditch or run out of money because you expect God to look out for
you.
- You look like an idiot with your rigid illogical opinions to those studying how
nature actually works.
- Other people will avoid you socially because of your utterly predictable endless
babblings about God.
- You have to worry about eternal punishment. The Bible and Qur’an imply
only a tiny fraction of people make the grade.
- It makes you an intolerant pain in the ass since you are under the delusion you
are in exclusive possession of the word of God on every matter.
- You may kill your children (by refusing medical attention), ignore facts right
under your nose, and justify all manner of wickedness (such as tormenting
homosexuals) using your holy book for justification.
- Because your Bible is purportedly the word of God, you don’t worry if the
advice it gives is inconsistent, illogical or wicked.
- You must play lawyer to defend your holy books which were written by men
thousands of years ago. Of course they are not consistent with what we know now.
You have to disingenuously twist words to pretend they do.
- You can’t use compassion and logic to determine you ethical choices. You
must use rigid rules composed thousands of years ago when women were treated as
slaves, it was considered proper to own slaves, and people believed disease was
caused by unclean spirits.
How To Find God
Evangelist Emmet Fox in his book Around the Year with Emmet Fox: A Book of
Daily Readings, proposes an experiment. Here is a greatly abbreviated
description of it.
- Forgive everyone including yourself.
- For a period of a month, every time you have a trouble, no matter how
personal, embarrassing, unholy or trifling, instead of worrying about it, give
the problem to God to deal with. Then spend the time you would have spent
worrying contemplating God, e.g. unbounded power, unbounded intelligence,
unbounded love, unbounded wisdom, perfect humour, omnipresence (Don’t you
think it a bit rude of humanity to create garbage dumps, which God because of
his omnipresence must inhabit.), joy, truth, spirit, principle etc. You
are on a fast from negative thoughts.
- Here is the hard part. Have faith that God will actually take care of all these
problems in a much more intelligent and pleasing way than you could ever come up
with yourself. If you don’t have faith, you are at least supposed to act
as if you did. This should suffice.
- Don’t dictate to God how to solve the problem. God may come up with
some very indirect solution that you may not even recognise as a solution.
- Don’t look for results. They may come at the 13th hour.
- Don’t tell anyone during the month about your experiment. You can talk
about it afterward.
- If it does not work, according to Fox, chances are you failed to be 100%
unconditionally loving to everyone. Since no one can attain that perfection,
there is always an excuse why this won’t work. It requires God’s
reputed mercy to have any hope of working.
You can then interpret anything out of the usual that happens either as co-incidence,
the work of God or as the work of your unconscious, and decide for yourself
which seems most plausible.
To me it would seem prudent to act normally during your experiment. Pay your
bills. Look both ways before crossing the street. You don’t want to get
yourself in too much trouble if God decides to ignore you for not having enough
faith. On the other hand, you want to go at it seriously. After a failure, you
will have even more evidence that God will ignore your pleas, and so it will be
even harder to whip up the requisite faith for a second attempt.
I’d be interested in hearing from people who have performed this
experiment. Tell me what happened and how you interpreted it.
I tried the experiment for the month of 2000-06. I
spent three weeks taking ganciclovir IVs to clear up my nausea where nearly
everything went wrong. At first, it looked like the treatment did not work. I
met a strikingly handsome young guy who came over twice for massages. I worried
less than usual, and it became clear that worry does little to improve most
situations. There was nothing sufficiently out of the ordinary to require divine
explanation. However, the following month something unusual did happen. A long
standing friend asked if she could become my lover, and I accepted, even though
she was of the "wrong " sex. Life has been unusually pleasant and
eventful ever since.
How Can You Tell When You Have Found God?
“I once heard the voice of God. It said "Vrrrrmmmmm." Unless it
was just a lawn mower.”
~ Age 11
Nearly everyone claims to have found God when they feel something inside
intensely pleasant and very different from anything they have felt before. There
are three problems relying totally on this approach.
- When my friend Phil was a child he shinnied up a pole and had an orgasm. He
assumed the pleasant sensations were caused by being "closer to God"
near the top of the pole. We laugh at Phil, but grown people act just as
foolishly.
- These intense feelings can be created on cue. Preachers have been perfecting the
techniques for centuries. In modern days there is a whole new arsenal of ways of
fooling people into thinking they have truly found God. See Dick
Sutphen’s article on how it is done.
- People who rely on pleasant sensations for their spiritual barometer can find
themselves bound to the gods of cocaine or heroin.
I think more reliable signs would be how you had changed for the better or how
your life had turned around. These effects may take years to become apparent.
Other people would probably tell you they thought your life was touched by God.
Alternate Definitions of God
- God as cosmic body guard: God protects you from
harm and disease. Actually the top banana is not really necessary, a guardian
angel or a friendly alien would suffice.
- God as cosmic Santa Claus: God is that which
answers prayers. You can petition God to grant you exciting sexual partners,
good health, material goods, and the esteem of your fellow man, all without
effort. God could be considered as a sort of Star Trek replicator.
- God as sadistic Master: God gives you cancer or
makes you lose your lover to teach you some mysterious spiritual lesson
so you will grow. The curriculum is never explained.
- God as cosmic snake oil: God is good for whatever
ails you. God is the solution to every problem. Just join my religion and you
can have all the God you want, for a small monthly fee.
- God as cosmic teddy bear: God is a companion with
you all the time. He says nothing, but he is a Good Listener.
- God as cosmic hit man: If anyone ever does you
wrong, you can rest assured God will torment him for eternity in the afterlife.
Unfortunately, we all have done somebody wrong, so we will all have to
console ourselves as we are tortured knowing everyone else is being tormented
too.
- I am God: This is not quite a whacko as is first
sounds. Usually people mean by this there is some common spirit or consciousness
that inhabits all humans that we experience as the sense of I amness.
- God as ideal lover: God looks absolutely fabulous,
and for some reason he thinks you too look absolutely fabulous, even if you are
overweight with bad breath.
- God as cosmic tripper: God sees everything as
perfect. Even suffering is beautiful. Even a dead fish in a polluted river has a
deep mysterious perfection. Even Microsoft Windows is perfect. God is completely
out of touch with how the rest of us experience reality.
- God is Love: This definition has Biblical support.I John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
- God as the creator of the universe: Even atheists
can believe in God with this sort of definition.
- God as the thing you most fear that won’t hurt you:
That puts extra meaning into the no other gods before me clause.
Pascal’s Wager
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such
an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence.”
~ Bertrand Russell (1872-05-18—
1970-02-02)
Philosopher Blaise Pascal came up with three arguments, not for the existence of
God, but for trying to talk yourself into believing there is a god, and that God
behaves as described in the Christian Bible. The concern is not for truth, but
for prudential practical benefit, basically that conning yourself is your best
bet. These arguments are, according to InfidelGuy.com,
the most commonly used by Christians debating with atheists. They are known
collectively as Pascal’s
Wager. The argument is essentially this:
- If you don’t believe in God and you are wrong, after you die,
you are in deep trouble.
- If you believe in God and you are wrong, nothing too terrible will
happen, other than the consequences of silly superstitious actions you may have
engaged in as a result, e.g. wasted time praying, or failing to take appropriate
action expecting God to bail you out.
- If you don’t believe in God and you are right nothing
special happens, other than living a fearless life.
- If you believe in God and you are right, you hit the jackpot.
Of course, you can fool others that you believe, but you can’t actually
fool yourself. Pascal’s original version called only for going through the
motions, not trying to trick yourself into believing.
“Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.”
~ Don Hirschberg
Of course you could construct a similar argument for believing in God as
described in most of the religions in this
list. Because there are so many, your odds of picking the right one, if any
such thing exists, are quite remote.
“The immense majority of intellectually eminent men disbelieve in the
Christian religion, but they conceal the fact in public, because they are afraid
of losing their incomes.”
~ Bertrand Russell (1872-05-18—
1970-02-02)
Pascal is doomed. Though he can pretend to believe, he can’t fool a God
who knows his thoughts.
Pascal presumes you can’t settle the matter though reason. We now know far
more about the question than did Pascal, and I think we know the probability of
a God anything like the one in the Christian Bible is extremely remote. Almost
nothing in the bible that can be tested has proved true. Further the
consequences of believing in the bogus Christian God are far more serious than
Pascal imagined. For example, if you trust in this Christian God, you are not
capable of biology or geology. You will be a bigot. Think of how difficult life
would be for a medieval peasant, believing in goblins, witches and devils
teleported to modern day. Every nutty incorrect idea you hold hampers your
ability to function.
Pascal also presumes God is terribly interested in whether you believe, not how
you behave. A fair God would be far more concerned with your behaviour than your
belief in some far fetched myth. What is so wicked about rejecting what appears
to be false?
Bedford’s Wager
The Riddle of Epicurus
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
~ Epicurus
My friend Darwin Bedford, the atheist messiah, at atheists.net
looks at it this way:
- If you don’t believe in God and you are wrong, after you die,
so long as you have lead a moral life you should have nothing to fear. A
compassionate god would not punish you for guessing which religion had an
exclusive handle on the truth.
- If you believe in God and you are wrong, you will have done
foolish things such as wasting time praying when you should have taken effective
action. You will have lived your life as if it did not matter because you
erroneously thought it was merely a trial, preparatory to your real life after
death. You would have lived an overly safe conventional life, keeping your nose
clean and avoiding all adventure. You would have let evil thrive, because you
felt dealing with that was God’s responsibility, not yours. You would have
done irrational things just because some hoary old book tricked you into it,
like mistreating blacks or gays. You would have wasted much of your life in fear
of the imaginary divine meat axe.
- If you don’t believe in God and you are right, you live a
zestful life. Every second counts. It is all you have got. You don’t
fritter your time in ritualistic activities. You take responsibility for the
planet. You make a difference. You made your decisions rationally, not based on
fear of some lunatic bogeyman in the sky. You behave well not because you fear
punishment, but because you know that such behaviour is globally and locally
optimal, good for everyone and also for you. You are a blessing to the planet.
- If you believe in God and you are right, you are more likely than
not to be an insufferably smug hypocrite, looking down your nose at others and
judging incessantly just as Jesus told you not to do. God judges your actions,
not your beliefs. In Luke 13:25, Jesus warned you that mere praying would
not get you into heaven; only good deeds would. You get punished doubly since
you ought to have known better.
Suicide
A religion is supposed to help you when things get really awful. A Christian
calls out to God and of course nothing happens. He feels even more abandoned. An
atheist does not bother. He has the possible out of suicide should things get
really really bad. He still has to balance the benefit of ending his personal
torment with increasing the pain of others. Normally people choose to stay alive
no matter how bad things are simply because life has a way of improving all by
itself. The suicide option is closed to the Christian. The Christian is trapped
by the threat of even worse eternal torment if he tries that escape. For the
atheist, at least knowing the option is there is a great comfort. There is a
limit to how much the atheist must endure. Even if Christians meddle and make
the suicide impossible, suffering is still limited in time. How do Christians
bear existence without that escape clause?
Does It Matter?
I have the sneaky suspicion what people are concerned about when they ask, "Does
God exist?" is they mean "Will I be supernaturally punished/rewarded
in the hereafter (or in my lifetime)? Is there any point in behaving well?"
For me it makes no practical difference. I long ago decided to behave well. I
want war, hunger and bigotry ended because war, hunger and bigotry are awful,
not because I imagine I will be rewarded in the hereafter with a mansion of gold.
I refrain from stealing, not because I fear being roasted on a spit, but because
I know what it feels like to be stolen from.
Why Do People Believe in God?
So why do we insist on believing in God?
“From a biological point of view, there are lots of different theories
about why we have this extraordinary predisposition to believe in supernatural
things. One suggestion is that the child mind is, for very good Darwinian
reasons, susceptible to infection the same way a computer is. In order to be
useful, a computer has to be programmable, to obey whatever it’s told to
do. That automatically makes it vulnerable to computer viruses, which are
programs that say, ‘Spread me, copy me, pass me on.’ Once a viral
program gets started, there is nothing to stop it.
Similarly, the child brain is preprogrammed by natural selection to obey and
believe what parents and other adults tell it. In general, it’s a good
thing that child brains should be susceptible to being taught what to do and
what to believe by adults. But this necessarily carries the down side that bad
ideas, useless ideas, waste of time ideas like rain dances and other religious
customs, will also be passed down the generations. The child brain is very
susceptible to this kind of infection. And it also spreads sideways by cross
infection when a charismatic preacher goes around infecting new minds that were
previously uninfected.”
~ Dr. Richard Dawkins (born 1941-03-26),
2005-04-25, Salon
Probability
“Man is certainly stark mad; he cannot make a flea, and yet he will be
making gods by dozens.”
~ Michel Eyquem de Montaigne
As of 2007-01-20 here are my best estimates of
probability of various assertions around the existence of god.
| Estimates of the Probability of the Existence of
God |
| Probability |
Assertion |
Notes |
| 0.00001% |
That the bible was composed by God. |
The bible is of such inferior
quality, it could not possibly have flowed from the pen something supposedly
perfect and all-knowing. Other holy books get roughly the same rating with the
Qur’an getting a few extra points because of the claim its poetry is of
superhuman quality, a claim I cannot verify. |
| 0.0001% |
Something with an IQ above a moron intelligently designs each new species. |
“The world would be astonished if it knew how great a proportion of its
brightest ornaments, of those distinguished even in popular estimation for
wisdom and virtue, are complete sceptics in religion.”
~ John Stuart Mill
Evolution itself is a problem solving process with an IQ of about 1. It is
bungling slow process. If you look closely at life, it is an endless series of
mindless tiny hacks, with no sign of brilliant design or forethought. The end
result can be impressive, but that is only because evolution is exceedingly
patient at searching for better designs, not intelligent in designing them.
The big creationist lie is the that the end result of evolution is random, like
a perfect watch forming from an explosion in a the watchmaker’s shop. The
process is anything but random. Evolution might be likened to a retarded blind
watchmaker who had no understanding of how watches work, who just kept trying
various combinations of gears over millenia to find counterfeit watch designs
that would sell better. The intelligence lay all in his customers’
intelligent discrimination refusing to buy the crummiest designs. Eventually his
designs would actually work, and would even continue to slowly improve. |
| 0.05% |
God talks to people |
“When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion.”
~ Robert M. Pirsig, the author of Zen and the
Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance
When people such as George W. Bush hear voices
in their head, they are so conceited that they imagine these internal voices are
the creator of the universe Himself are taking time out for a consultation. The
messages themselves are invariably silly or deranged and reveal nothing only God
Himself would know. Further John 5:37
makes clear Jehovah does not talk to individual people. This of course
contradicts other parts of the bible where He reputedly does. |
| 0.01% |
Presuming there is a God, that the old Testament roughly expresses God’s
wishes. |
The essential values of the old testament are intolerance, animal sacrifice
and smiting enemies. God is supposedly just, kind and all-knowing. He would not
take sides in petty battles. |
| 1% |
God, or some other mysterious process, is like a cosmic Santa Claus watching
you at all times and keeping a record of your every transgression. |
This is just a story told to older children to help make them feel
frightened about masturbating or sex play. If God were all that interested in
the behaviour of his individual creatures he would make his authority and the
desired behaviours clear, rather than acting through various con men. He would
intervene, chastise and explain at many points in a life rather than waiting
until death. To learn, you need immediate feedback. |
| 2% |
That your consciousness keeps on experiencing something for years after you
die. |
You might be a ghost, reincarnate, live in some other dimensional heaven/hell… |
| 2% |
Something with an IQ above a moron intelligently designed the basic
underpinnings of reality, e.g. the laws of quantum mechanics, that there are
such things as distance, time and mass and chose the basic constants. |
The way basic reality works on a subatomic level is undeniably
mathematically elegant and highly convenient for life. If you presume we are not
the only universe, there may be vast numbers of them, mostly uninteresting.
Imagine being an ancient Hawaiian. You would presume that God had made the
climate perfect for your benefit, food abundant for your benefit etc. Only after
you travelled the globe would you discover this was not universally true. There
was no universal beneficence making the climate temperate. You just lucked out
on a nice spot. |
| 20% |
Presuming there is a God, the New Testament roughly expresses God’s
wishes. |
The essential values of the new testament are kindness, non-violence,
tolerance, restraint in use of power and faith without evidence. These values (except
faith) are geared to the long term sustainability of the human species. Missing
is any sort of ecological awareness. The New Testament is full of superstition
which just divides Christians and non-Christians further.
“So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise
of intelligence.”
~ Bertrand Russell (1872-05-18—
1970-02-02) |
| 60% |
That under some circumstances your consciousness has experiences even when
there is no measurable brain activity. |
This personally has never happened to me. When I was under anaesthesis, I
awoke as if no time at all had passed. It is possible trauma causes memories of
events to be directly laid down that were never actually never experienced, not
even in imagination. But that would not account for sensory information gleaned
while there was no brain activity. |
| 75% |
That there is some unknown mechanism that sporadically creates highly
improbable co-incidences in our lives. |
This is most probably some weak form of ESP that unconsciously makes
unconscious arrangements with other people. It may be an advanced species
playing tricks on us, or playing with us. |
| 99.999% |
That it is possible to have an out of body experience while you are still
alive. |
This has happened to me and to several of my friends. I make no claim other
that this is how it appears to the observer. It may just be some sort of waking
dream. |
“Believing would be easier if God would show himself by depositing a
million dollars in a Swiss bank account in my name.”
~ Woody Allen
When someone says “Do you believe in God” he is conflating all these
questions. When you break them out, and answer with probabilities rather than
with absolute certainty, we may discover more patterns of agreement than at
first appears. Have fun with the list. Compare your probabilty estimates with
others as a jumping off point for discussion.
Disproving the Existence of God
Most people are quite happy to believe in the existence of God simply because no
one has found an iron clad way to prove God does not exist. It does not
bother them in the least there is no evidence for the existence of God.
If someone told me the earth was rhombus shaped, borne through the cosmos by in
the pincers of two invisible enormous green lobsters called Esmeralda and Keith,
I could not prove the lobsters did not exist either. I can’t prove there
are no fairies or no unicorns. I can’t prove there is no Russellian teapot
orbiting Mars. But, on the other hand, my failure to prove non-existence is no
evidence at all for their existence. If you want to convince me that sasquatches,
yetis, Loch Ness monsters, fairies, unicorns, Jove, Jahweh, Jupiter, Esmeralda
and Keith, orbiting teapots or the cadborosaurus exist, it is up to you
to present some evidence.
The old misconceptions that people mistook as evidence for the existence of God
no longer hold. We have discovered the universe is quite capable of functioning
without the constant tinkering of a deity. We have discovered even complex
creatures like elephants arise by natural processes of chemistry and biology.
They don’t require an intelligent designer. They came into being by a
mindless laborious genetic process of trial and error carried out by busy little
DNA molecules.
Why You Know There Is No God
“I cannot believe God created parasites to torture small children.”
~ Sir David Attenborough
- If you define god as the entity that answers prayer, you know there is no god,
because every experiment to test the efficacy of prayer shows it has no effect.
- If you define god as the all knowing entity that wrote the bible, you know there
is no god because the bible is full of error and
inconsistency.
- If you define god as the entity that designed and created all the species, you
know there is no god, because there is no evidence of design to the trained eye.
Granted, there is an illusion of design to the layman. Animals evolved
gradually in bungling hamfisted ways, with no foresight. Consider the painful
way humans are born pushed through the female pelvis. Consider the panda’s
inept thumb. Consider the human eye with the light sensitive cells on the wrong
side of the retina. Consider the human eye with a blind spot right in the middle
of the visual field. That is not intelligent design!
- If you define god as the entity that tortures people after death, recall you
have no evidence anyone has ever been tortured after death. Some influential
members of the priestly class merely asserted it was so, and convinced others by
dramatics and repeated assertion. Taking somebody’s say so without any
reason or evidence at all is a very weak argument for the existence of god. If
you believe the tales that Allah will torture you after death, why are you
ignoring the warnings that Kali and Jehovah will too?
- If you define god as Jehovah, consider there are 10,000+ other gods. Which god
you worship depends mainly on where you were born, not on the attractiveness of
the god. At most one of these 10,000+ gods could be correct since they all
disagree and all claim other gods are false. There is nothing special about
Jehovah. He is as likely as any other to be bogus. He started out as a purely
local tribal god of the Jews. Any particular god has at best a 1 in 10,000
chance of being the true god.
Parting Thought
I feel sorry for people who believe in religion. They are like people who never
go outside, who only look at tacky advertising calendars to learn the what is
happening in the outside world. To appeciate the Alps, or a tropical coral
lagoon, you have to look at them directly for yourself. The more science you
know about what is going on with the lives of all those tiny creatures, the more
awe-insipiring the reef is. How can you possibly fully experience soaking in a
warm sulpher spring when you have only read about it? Religious dogma is like
looking at the world though a filthy, cobb-web distorted piece of glass.
Religionists imagine their ancient dogmas reveal the hidden beauty of the
universe, but in actuality they hide it. Draft horses wearing blinders silently
thank their masters for the splendid view they have of the lead’s horse’s
hind quarters. They could never dream what was to be seen if they would somehow
shake the blinders free! The worst bondage is when you don’t know you are
captive. Remember the movie The Sting where Paul Newman as Henry
Gondorff explains the best con is one where the mark never even figures out he
has been had. Conning via religion is as old as mankind. The art was perfected
thousands of years ago.
DVDs
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recommend DVD⇒The God Who Wasn’t There |
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| by: Brian Flemming |
| This movie debunks Christianity by showing how all parts of the Jesus legend were borrowed from earlier religions, and that even the church fathers admitted that. It also shows how early Christian writers were not talking about a literal historical person. Finally it shows how the Bible is at odds in many crucial places with established history. See the TheGodMovie.com website for a variety of clips. |
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